I totally and I wish everyone that is really into this debate would acknowledge that fact.. Unless we're seeing full on penetration and male nudity(female nudity doesn't seem to bother ppl though) then it should be rated AO. Blood, gore, sex and filthy language are all prevelant in R rated movies, which are intended for ppl 17 and up, so unless I'm playing porn I see no point for an AO rating myself.
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I totally and I wish everyone that is really into this debate would acknowledge that fact.. Unless we're seeing full on penetration and male nudity(female nudity doesn't seem to bother ppl though) then it should be rated AO. Blood, gore, sex and filthy language are all prevelant in R rated movies, which are intended for ppl 17 and up, so unless I'm playing porn I see no point for an AO rating myself.
lordofduct
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I should clarify something about the strictness of my household VertigoXX brings up. I wouldn't say it was strict... it was ... strange.
My mother's direction in monitoring what I played and read wasn't really for the 'standard' censorship purpose. It wasn't like I wasn't allowed to see violence or nudity (my mother suggested for me to read and watch both Clockwork Orange and The Shining for book reports in my 7th grade year where we had to compare and contrast book/movie adaptations). My mother censored what she considered senseless violence or redundancy, but understood a small level of it for my young age. Mortal Kombat to her was unneccesary violence... she felt "Schindler's List" was a great learning experience. She actually grew up in the late 60's and 70's, had her first child at 16 and followed a parenting practice that I think works (probably because it was how I was raised).
A bit complex in all(probably why its not practiced much), but when it came to the censorship part of raising me she slowly opened my eyes to it and informed me of it then made me make my own decision by showing me the extremes (i.e. Clockwork Orange) and then after I did that she would go over the steps and reactions a made through it. (My mother is weird, a English major/psych minor). Surprisingly I grew to understand peoples fascination in gore, lacked a fascination in gore, and most of all didn't feel that I should censor it myself but instead let others make their own stinkin' choice. (as Dud said; from 1-12 is the most impressionable time for children)
Why did I say all this; you may be asking!? Well it explains my stance on this.
I SHOULD NOT MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOU! I can assist in persuading you into understanding why I choose mine and this may influence you to either agree or disagree, either way though it certainly doesn't make you wrong. The government should not decide this stuff for us, nor should it endorse apathy toward individual decision making (i.e. not creating censorship laws at the same time as night promoting a sense of moral family interaction in assisting the raising process). I agree with VertigoXX, we need more family interaction, parents should be spending more time at home... my mother raised me on her own and did a fine job in my opinion, but maybe if she could of been there more it would of kept me out of the trouble that I still go into. Then again the trouble I got into was a great learning experience (this tidbit leaves me to believe that full censorship will arouse to much curiosity... but I have nothing to prove this).
I feel that parenting should be a learning experience for both parties... not a healthcare or guard duty type job. They should be getting these kids ready to enter the world with a developed brain both in skill and morals. Depending on TV and the Gov't. to do this is like depending on a dolphin to teach you to walk. They just don't have the experience to do it, and what little experience they may have is so far back in history it's debated if they ever did walk[sic].
[editor note]: you may giggle at the [sic] there when the thing is so filled with mistakes... but if you giggled for that reason you don't get why I put [sic] there.
My mother's direction in monitoring what I played and read wasn't really for the 'standard' censorship purpose. It wasn't like I wasn't allowed to see violence or nudity (my mother suggested for me to read and watch both Clockwork Orange and The Shining for book reports in my 7th grade year where we had to compare and contrast book/movie adaptations). My mother censored what she considered senseless violence or redundancy, but understood a small level of it for my young age. Mortal Kombat to her was unneccesary violence... she felt "Schindler's List" was a great learning experience. She actually grew up in the late 60's and 70's, had her first child at 16 and followed a parenting practice that I think works (probably because it was how I was raised).
A bit complex in all(probably why its not practiced much), but when it came to the censorship part of raising me she slowly opened my eyes to it and informed me of it then made me make my own decision by showing me the extremes (i.e. Clockwork Orange) and then after I did that she would go over the steps and reactions a made through it. (My mother is weird, a English major/psych minor). Surprisingly I grew to understand peoples fascination in gore, lacked a fascination in gore, and most of all didn't feel that I should censor it myself but instead let others make their own stinkin' choice. (as Dud said; from 1-12 is the most impressionable time for children)
Why did I say all this; you may be asking!? Well it explains my stance on this.
I SHOULD NOT MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOU! I can assist in persuading you into understanding why I choose mine and this may influence you to either agree or disagree, either way though it certainly doesn't make you wrong. The government should not decide this stuff for us, nor should it endorse apathy toward individual decision making (i.e. not creating censorship laws at the same time as night promoting a sense of moral family interaction in assisting the raising process). I agree with VertigoXX, we need more family interaction, parents should be spending more time at home... my mother raised me on her own and did a fine job in my opinion, but maybe if she could of been there more it would of kept me out of the trouble that I still go into. Then again the trouble I got into was a great learning experience (this tidbit leaves me to believe that full censorship will arouse to much curiosity... but I have nothing to prove this).
I feel that parenting should be a learning experience for both parties... not a healthcare or guard duty type job. They should be getting these kids ready to enter the world with a developed brain both in skill and morals. Depending on TV and the Gov't. to do this is like depending on a dolphin to teach you to walk. They just don't have the experience to do it, and what little experience they may have is so far back in history it's debated if they ever did walk[sic].
[editor note]: you may giggle at the [sic] there when the thing is so filled with mistakes... but if you giggled for that reason you don't get why I put [sic] there.
I don't see it that way. This is news that affects the gaming industry as a whole.
Granted, I myself have moved a handful of posts off the news page and into either General or Current Systems. But this situation with GTA:SA getting slapped with the AO so late and the many politicians getting into the mess, this could have long lasting repercussions industry-wide. That makes it news-worthy here.
But as always, Ice makes the final call.
lordofduct
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Section should be on the topic... which is news.
This is a message board, the direction of the topic can go any way. Shit look now we are talking about where the damn thing belongs. the content could change so much it could fit anywhere. That's why I say it should stay in News.
Let Ice decide, his site, his choice.
Anyways when you discuss news what do you do?... the news is told. Now its time to speak your opinion about what news was told.
This is a message board, the direction of the topic can go any way. Shit look now we are talking about where the damn thing belongs. the content could change so much it could fit anywhere. That's why I say it should stay in News.
Let Ice decide, his site, his choice.
Anyways when you discuss news what do you do?... the news is told. Now its time to speak your opinion about what news was told.
