• Rise from your gwave!

see if i get anymore abuse

Discussion in 'General' started by Whitesnake, Apr 2, 2002.

  1. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake New Member

    to trading standards http://www.tradingstandards.net/ i have had enough of all this abuse in your irc chat room and its not just me, so start treating people with respect, bugula and watchd0g, are to of the people who walk a very thin line.
     
  2. maidtina

    maidtina New Member

    So, there are arseholes on the web, thats nothing new, Do what you think is right. Though i cant see how trading standards would really care considering that no commerce is allowed on the channel. Its a chat room not a shop.

    Baka...
     
  3. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake New Member

    no but the website and everything affilated with it is, and the ftp's am pretty sure thats trading copyrighted material
     
  4. ExCyber

    ExCyber Staff Member

    Watchd0g is not a person. The fact that you didn't pick up on this probably means that you made an idiot of yourself and got banned fast enough to not have any idea what goes on in the channel (hint: those folks aren't there for 1337 ISOz). People get banned from #segaxtreme all the time; it is almost never permanent. Besides, if you can't take a little abuse on IRC, there's a fairly simple solution that doesn't mess with anyone else - stop using IRC. Threatening to "report" SX is childish, and is likely to just get you banned from the message board too. You might think you get a lot of crap from people in the IRC channel, but I can guarantee that Arakon, Skank, and bug have to put up with a lot more shit than you do, and I doubt that they're going to suddenly respect you because you've decided to make incoherent threats.
     
  5. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake New Member

    i dont think piracy is a childish matter and there not incoherent threats as you call them they are true factual warnings, and about putting you with stuff everyone has there limits we aint all the same.
     
  6. ExCyber

    ExCyber Staff Member

    i dont think piracy is a childish matter

    I didn't say that. I'm talking about the "Be nice to me, or else I'll complain to [authority figure]" attitude. Besides, if you've got a problem with an individual, take it up with the individual. Trying to hold the SX community hostage due to a personal grudge isn't likely to earn you any respect.

    there not incoherent threats as you call them they are true factual warnings

    They're incoherent in the sense that what you threaten to do doesn't follow from the problem you're trying to solve. Trading Standards is a trade regulation agency in the UK. SegaXtreme is a somewhat nebulous "community" with members in many areas, and IRC is a worldwide network (not to mention that most IRC servers operate at a loss as a service to the public and do not guarantee any quality of service).

    and about putting you with stuff everyone has there limits we aint all the same.

    I made no such claim. What I did claim is that the primary channel ops aren't likely to have much sympathy for you.

    (Edited by ExCyber at 10:44 am on April 2, 2002)
     
  7. SkankinMonkey

    SkankinMonkey Member

    Hahahaha, what a joke, send me a message next time youre on so I can ban you please.
     
  8. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake New Member

    "Trying to hold the SX community hostage due to a personal grudge isn't likely to earn you any respect"

    oh yeah its real easy to take it up with the person because they kick you out the room cause they dont want your side of the arguement, so take it here is the easiest option.

    plus i just hate piracy there is no such thing as "joking" when it comes to piracy. Piracy costs this industry more than $6 billion dollars a year. Piracy closes good gaming companies down, makes game developers lose their jobs and unable to put food on the table. Piracy is the main reason game prices are so high. And piracy is an insult to every real gamer. If you can't buy a game, you can't play a game. so just you think about that and you will see who is sympathetic
     
  9. ExCyber

    ExCyber Staff Member

    plus i just hate piracy there is no such thing as "joking" when it comes to piracy.

    This is demonstrably false. For instance:

    Arrrrr, me mateys! There be the ship carryin' our Warcraft III and RTCW ISOs! Run up the Jolly Roger! Shiver me timbers!

    ... and so forth.

    Piracy costs this industry more than $6 billion dollars a year.

    According to who? Oh yeah: the people who fight "piracy" for a living. I'm sure they're not biased at all, and are aware of every single unauthorized copy ever made, and the underlying intent, so that they can calculate accurate figures...

    Piracy closes good gaming companies down, makes game developers lose their jobs and unable to put food on the table.

    I've not seen this ever happen. I have seen stupid publishers screw over good development companies though (e.g. Looking Glass Studios and Dynamix).

    Piracy is the main reason game prices are so high.

    I think it's much more likely that massive development costs are the main reasons that game prices are so high. This is one of the reasons that a bunch of Playstation games have been re-released at half their original retail price once they've been proven to be solid sellers...

    And piracy is an insult to every real gamer.

    Too bad "real gamers" are like "real audiophiles" or "real programmers". That is, your definition doesn't mean any more than anyone else's. Do you realize that some game developers consider "piracy" (particularly of the "abandonware" variety) to be a compliment rather than an insult?

    If you can't buy a game, you can't play a game. so just you think about that and you will see who is sympathetic

    You say that as though it's some kind of insult. Maybe I need to update my dictionary...
     
  10. cpl carrot

    cpl carrot New Member

    we'd all better stop it, or sega might stop supporting scd and saturn! *shudder*
     
  11. Gallstaff

    Gallstaff Member

    OH NO! I may have to *ACTUALLY* go get a time machene, go back to 1997 and buy all the good saturn games i can while there's still time!! *panics* oh what to do what to do? So little time and so much MONEY sega's losing every time we snag a copy of a game they can't possibly make money off of!
     
  12. FLEABttn

    FLEABttn New Member

    How are you going to report SegaXtreme when chances are that Sega already knows of its existance?

    Do they do anything about it? No. Why? Because they don't give a #### about abandonware.

    Nobody makes money off the Saturn anymore. Not Sega, not any of the third parties, nobody.
     
  13. Raijin Z

    Raijin Z New Member

    Frildo. If Sega themselves won't sell you a legal copy of say, Fighters Megamix, where are you going to get it? At a used game store? Then the game store profits, because they bought that game from someone else. ebay? Ebay profits a little for hosting the auction, and the seller profits as much as they see fit, but not Sega. I say if the publisher won't produce it or at least sell you a copy from their existing stock, do whatever you want.

    Oh, I've only ever been banned from one IRC channel. It was #anime on Undernet. Why? They were talking about blatant piracy of NEW games, and anime that was being licensed and sold in the US. Their rules stated "No mention of DBZ", but it was fine for them to blatantly pirate products still available in the market, some less than a month old. All I said was "Once, when I was a little kid, I wanted to play the piccolo, but I ran straight out of the pool, into the cooler and the freezer, and my trunks almost fell off."
     
  14. ExCyber

    ExCyber Staff Member

    I find it kind of strange how many people despise Dragonball Z (but never Dragonball in general, it seems) for no obvious reason, beyond perhaps "I watched it once and it didn't have any plot." (which I guess can't be such a surprising reaction if one was raised on purely episodic shows) There's plenty of stuff to criticize about it, but I'm starting to think that a lot of self-styled "anime fans" are really just using it as a low-risk way of being nonconformist (compared to, say, endorsing socialism or polygamy), and DBZ has simply become too popular for their liking. This might tie in to the "warez" aspect of it, which some people seem to get into for the sole reason that it's illegal.
     
  15. Captian Crazy

    Captian Crazy New Member

    Sad but funny, Raijin Z.
     
  16. Gallstaff

    Gallstaff Member

    DBGT all the way!
     
  17. Cynnamin

    Cynnamin New Member

    my GOD

    what the #### does everyone think happens on irc?!

    bitching whining banning complaining kicking

    THATS IT.

    Christ, if I had ops, I'd ban every person who came in that I didn't know unless I liked their name.

    That's why I don't have ops.... in #segaxtreme ;)
     
  18. Subura

    Subura New Member

    Back in the day of Super5, i 'm sure some people will remeber the site, everyone thought DBZ was cool and then it goes on cable and suddenly its Taboo?

    Too many fans these days are forgetting their roots, watching DBZ on public channels or transformers, the shows which helped ignorent americans like myself to realize that anime is Amazing.

    So Dont bad mouth DBZ just because you think your too cool for it.

    :cool:
     
  19. Myname

    Myname Member

    I think this dude belongs on the emuworld message boards with all the other 12 year olds. The internet is a cruel place, as is the world. Making threats won't get you anywhere in either (unless your Dad's really big). Yeah, piracy of stuff that you can buy direct is wrong, anything else is fair game in my book. If I was the one making games, I would WANT people to pirate them if that was the choice between playing them and not playing them. I read in an interview recently that Myamoto supports the emulation community and that's the attitude that should be taken I think.
     
  20. Gallstaff

    Gallstaff Member

    Yeah i mean, i bet a lot of people played a soinic ROM and thought "wow this is cool, maybe i'll get SA" or something like that.
     

Share This Page