I recently dowloaded a backup (bin/cue) of Keio Flying Squadron 2 for the Saturn, but there is an obvious problem with it. The entire soundtrack is in CD audio (redbook?), and each song actually begins 2 seconds before its track does. In other words, when repeating a single track, the first two seconds of the next tune are always at the end before it loops back, and when starting any track, the first two seconds are missing. I'm guessing the problem is with the cuesheet. My simple question: should I get rid of the 2 second pre-gap between the data track and the audio tracks, or should I subtract two seconds from the starting point of each individual track? I would guess the second solution is the right one, but I could be wrong. What about doing both?
Cue point errors in cue sheet
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lordofduct
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its your second one... place a two second pregap before each audio track.
you NEED that 2 second gap between the data and audio tracks... dont mess with it.
you NEED that 2 second gap between the data and audio tracks... dont mess with it.
Thank you for your reply. I suspected as much about the pre-gap in between the data and audio tracks. However, I'm still a little curious about something. You'll have to pardon my lack of knowledge in this area. Would inserting pre-gaps really offset the start of each track to the proper place? The name kind of suggests that it would merely put a 2 second space in between each track. Right now, when one tune starts at the last two seconds of the track, it goes into the next one seamlessly. So if I listen to all tracks in a row with a normal CD player, everything sounds normal.
Oh yeah, and while I'm thinking about it, what is the difference between a pre-gap and a post-gap? Could one be substituted for the other?
Finally, if your recommendation is what I should go with, please tell me if this is the right way to insert the pregaps:
<!--QuoteBegin-cuesheet
FILE "Keio_Flying_Squadron_2.BIN" BINARY
 TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
  INDEX 01 00:00:00
 TRACK 02 AUDIO
  PREGAP 00:02:00
  INDEX 01 15:29:44
 TRACK 03 AUDIO
  <span style='color:yellow'>PREGAP 00:02:00
  INDEX 01 17:24:67
 TRACK 04 AUDIO
  INDEX 01 19:22:35
  PREGAP 00:02:00</span>
etc etc.[/quote]
Thanks again!
lordofduct
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Hrmmm, actually i see what the prob may be...
try writing the cue like this... note the mode 1/2048
dont put any pregaps in the rest of the audio tracks, and take others advice (although ive never came across the prob) and burn it at a low speed like 1X or 2X. I believe its spreading the data track to far out on the cd and the game is pulling from the wrong sector.
try writing the cue like this... note the mode 1/2048
dont put any pregaps in the rest of the audio tracks, and take others advice (although ive never came across the prob) and burn it at a low speed like 1X or 2X. I believe its spreading the data track to far out on the cd and the game is pulling from the wrong sector.
MasterAkumaMatata
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lordofduct: Your suggested cuesheet seems like it's for a mixed mode cooked ISO image where the data track and audio track(s) are in separate files. I think SamIAm is referring to a mixed mode raw BIN+CUE image where the data track and audio track(s) are in one BIN file. AFAIK, there are no POSTGAPs in mixed mode images where the data and audio tracks are in one BIN file, only a 2 second PREGAP usually found on the first audio track.
SamIAm: Why don't you post your original cuesheet and we can go from there?
SamIAm: Why don't you post your original cuesheet and we can go from there?
lordofduct
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ISO... no, thats how ive written up and fixed many of my bin cue sheets. i only use BIN
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