Doom 32X: Resurrection

Chilly Willy

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I've worked on libyaul... much of the peripheral support was my work as I have a considerable number of Saturn peripherals, including the wheel and the keyboard. I do intend to make a Saturn version at some point. Just been waiting for the 32X version to reach a point where it's mostly finished so that there's less need to keep merging bug fixes and new features into the Saturn version.

I've got a chipped Saturn that will play CDRs, and I've got a devcart that will load executables over USB. I normally use my 32X toolchain for building Saturn demos as they both use the SH2 and 68000.

As to how D32XR is coming, Vic just worked the code and data for the cyberdemon and spider mastermind back into it, and we've worked out bank switching the rom using the standard sega mapper for larger roms (needed for both of those monsters given their size... it's why they were removed in the first place). A first version of a Saturn port of this will probably require the 4MB ram cart to make things easier. Given how easy it is to get something like an Action Replay 4M Plus, that shouldn't be too much of a burden on Saturn folks. I'd guess that most probably already have one just from sheer utility.
 

TrekkiesUnite118

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It might not be a bad idea to try focusing on making it 4MB RAM compatible instead of 100% requiring it. Reason being there's been a lot of advancements lately with Netlink functionality. So having the cart port available to work with the Netlink Modem might not be a bad idea for adding multiplayer. You could maybe set it up in a way where if you don't have the RAM cart inserted you get something more along the lines of what PS1 Doom had content wise, allowing the Netlink modem to be used for multiplayer. If you have the RAM cart installed you get a more fleshed out single player experience though.
 
It's funny you mention that because I've thought many times of ditching my Netlink modem in the past as "useless" but it appears holding onto it for software to catch up is the better play. I had a Taisen cable back in the day (and 2 Saturns and 2 TVs and games to play it with) and honestly, I only ever used it once. it's a huge pain in the ass in reality.
 

Chilly Willy

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While more people might have the modem, if you don't currently have one, you probably aren't going to be able to get one... not without remortgaging your home. :D Then add all the other hardware you're going to need to use it - you just can't dial up an ISP in most places anymore, so like the Dreamcast folk, you're going to need to hook the modem to something like a Raspberry Pi setup to convert between the modern internet and your modem. Not saying I won't support the modem, but it's clearly going to be something added later rather than at the start. Things I have and can see the utility of will come before anything else, so support for all different sorts of controllers (including mouse and keyboard), as well as ram carts, will be the things supported first.
 

TrekkiesUnite118

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Sure that's fair. I'm just saying between the two, the Modem is probably the more useful and accessible one to support over the Taisen Cable. So it might not be a bad idea to keep the option on the table for a bit.
 

Chilly Willy

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Sure that's fair. I'm just saying between the two, the Modem is probably the more useful and accessible one to support over the Taisen Cable. So it might not be a bad idea to keep the option on the table for a bit.

Sure. Any suggestions will be taken seriously, and networking of any sort does eventually become important. I might not be able to test it, but when it gets worked on, others will be able to do that. I have a lot of Sega hardware, especially for the Genesis/CD/32X, but I don't have everything, so Vic and I have others do some tests for us. Not just for things we don't have, but also because sometimes you just need a completely different set of eyes to find all the things that need changing. As it is, I only have one Saturn, and neither modem nor link cable, so I won't be testing any networking to start with in any case. I was able to work on D32XR networking because I have two 32X systems and the ZT system link cable. It's always faster and easier to get something working if you can check it yourself, but I don't see that being the case for the Saturn. At least, not any time soon.
 
Sure. Any suggestions will be taken seriously, and networking of any sort does eventually become important. I might not be able to test it, but when it gets worked on, others will be able to do that. I have a lot of Sega hardware, especially for the Genesis/CD/32X, but I don't have everything, so Vic and I have others do some tests for us. Not just for things we don't have, but also because sometimes you just need a completely different set of eyes to find all the things that need changing. As it is, I only have one Saturn, and neither modem nor link cable, so I won't be testing any networking to start with in any case. I was able to work on D32XR networking because I have two 32X systems and the ZT system link cable. It's always faster and easier to get something working if you can check it yourself, but I don't see that being the case for the Saturn. At least, not any time soon.
Thanks for your efforts. Regarding the peripherals, if you accept suggestions, making it compatible with the 3D pad (if it's possible) would be a nice touch, bc playing an FPS with analog strafing is truly a pleasure.

Strafing and moving in Lobotomy's games is incredible with that controller, really cool stuff, and I'm sure many more people own it than the Saturn's mouse. Thus, if you'd like to approach it with a "first things first" mindset, the first peripheral I'd focus on would be the 3D pad.

Can't wait to see this game being ported to Saturn with a PS1-like framerate. Again, thanks for all your work. Keeping these consoles alive keeps me alive too.
 

Chilly Willy

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Thanks for your efforts. Regarding the peripherals, if you accept suggestions, making it compatible with the 3D pad (if it's possible) would be a nice touch, bc playing an FPS with analog strafing is truly a pleasure.

Strafing and moving in Lobotomy's games is incredible with that controller, really cool stuff, and I'm sure many more people own it than the Saturn's mouse. Thus, if you'd like to approach it with a "first things first" mindset, the first peripheral I'd focus on would be the 3D pad.

Yeah, sure. I got one of those. The analogue stick should make it much better than the standard pad. I do like that the Saturn pads have shoulder buttons. Makes strafing with the pad easier. You need one of those custom controllers with programmable shoulder buttons to do that on the 32X. One of the more popular Genesis pads with shoulder buttons maps them to Z and C, so that's something you can set in D32XR.
 
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