processor upgrade question

my parents have an older computer p2 i was wondering is it possible to buy a p3 1G and replace the p2 with the p3 (yes i will provide more information about the mouther board when i actually sit down and look at it i just want to know the answer first to this question)
 
Originally posted by joe81@Jan 6, 2004 @ 08:56 PM

my parents have an older computer p2 i was wondering is it possible to buy a p3 1G and replace the p2 with the p3 (yes i will provide more information about the mouther board when i actually sit down and look at it i just want to know the answer first to this question)

depends what PII it is.

later PIIs can be upgraded to low PIIIs
 
I doubt it since the p2's were slot processors and p3's are socket processors meaning they are physically different formats.
 
If it's a 350, then it's on a board that supports a FSB of 100Mhz. There was a slot 1 P3@1Ghz, but they are very rare.

Your best bet is to get a "slotkey" converter (allows socket 370 processors to fit slot 1) and look for a 1.2-1.4Ghz Celeron.
 
That's "slotket" (slot -> socket), and they can sometimes push system bus timing tolerances because of the fact that there are two sockets involved rather than one.
 
Hmm...I like "slotkey" better. 😀

But you are right, maximum speed depends on the quality and abilities of the board.
 
First, I think the celerons above 1Ghz used tualatin core, which isn't compatible with even a ton of PIII boards. Second, if he has a good BX chipset, its possible to run at a 133Mhz FSB easily (if you're inclined to OC). So he could use a fairly fast PIII. If not, even at 100Mhz, there were some (coppermine?) celerons that went fairly high. You could pick up an 800Mhz celeron for $40 and then just get a slotkey adapter as suggested above. If you wanted a really simple solution you could just pop in a 500Mhz slot 1 PIII, for around 40 or so.

I would not spend money on a Celeron or PIII solution, if it required you to get a new board. I think at that point it'd be cheaper and better to buy a cheap Socket A board and a 1Ghz+ Duron or something. Very affordable, you could get a KT133A that could use your existing memory. Or get a KT333/400 and some DDR if you want to spend a few more bucks.
 
have you actually looked for a place that sells a Pentium 3 1ghz? Those things are pretty expensive, around $100 used, maybe you should just upgrade the computer completely. If there is a Fry's Electronics near you, you can get a Duron 1.6ghz with motherboard for only $40. If you don't really care and just want a faster machine to surf the web on, you can get a PIII 650-700mhz Slot 1 CPU for $50 at compgeeks.com. Eventually your computer will become outdated in a few years again, so why not make a major upgrade?
 
Also there is the concern with the bios. You might need to upgrade so that it will properly recognize the new processor. My parents use an old p2 350 also, its an IBM aptiva, and the only thing that really stopped me from ever upgrading it was IBMs lack of support and bios updates for processor upgrades.

Also you might need to consider voltages jumpers and what not.. im not sure on this though.

It might just be cheaper and more cost effective in the long run to spend a little more now and do a full upgrade of the board and processor.
 
Originally posted by RitualOfTheTrout@Jan 20, 2004 @ 06:45 PM



It might just be cheaper and more cost effective in the long run to spend a little more now and do a full upgrade of the board and processor.

wouldn't you possibly need new RAM too?
 
Originally posted by racketboy@Jan 20, 2004 @ 08:47 PM

wouldn't you possibly need new RAM too?

Oh yes.. most likely you would. Depending how new the mother board it would require at least 133 SDRAM.

A small yet extremly important thing i forgot to note.. :blush:
 
No. If you're cheap you can run async with a 133Mhz FSB, or if you're using an older Duron you'd be running synchronously with PC100 at a 100Mhz FSB. That is why I mentioned the KT133A chipset... you could use your existing PC100 with it.

If you're not quite so restricted financially, as I said above, you could get a more modern board and like a 256MB stick of DDR. So basically it comes down to budget.
 
Originally posted by Alexvrb@Jan 22, 2004 @ 03:57 AM

If you're not quite so restricted financially, as I said above, you could get a more modern board and like a 256MB stick of DDR. So basically it comes down to budget.

that's a good idea, and won't cost too much more, I recently upgraded to a Duron 1800/ ECS k7vta3, from frys for about 50 bucks...but then i realized I had to get some ram, but that was on sale as well, 512mb pc2700 for 60 bucks.
 
That's a deal, well except maybe the memory (I won't buy RAM locally, timings are usually terrible). But is that the $50 for the board and CPU? They'd have to be giving the board away, if that Duron is really clocked at 1.8Ghz. Not like that's a bad thing for you, or anything.
 
Just a quick question, how much of a difference would a Duron 1.4ghz make compared to an Athlon 1.4ghz? I've been wanting to upgrade my machine as well.
 
I don't think that is much of an upgrade since the new Durons (1.4-1.8ghz) are stripped-down versions of Athlon XPs. Here's a comparison between budget CPUs if you want to see where a Duron 1.6ghz ranks among other cheap CPUs.
 
Originally posted by MTXBlau@Jan 24, 2004 @ 04:23 PM

Just a quick question, how much of a difference would a Duron 1.4ghz make compared to an Athlon 1.4ghz? I've been wanting to upgrade my machine as well.

If you're asking which of the two would be better to upgrade to, I'd say you could get a Duron 1.4-1.8 for cheap, so that might be the better deal. If you can spend the extra money, it's worth it to get an Athlon XP, especially a Barton (if your board or future board allows). If you're on a tight budget, then my recommendation still goes with the Duron.

If you're asking whether an upgrade from a Duron 1.4 to an Athlon 1.4 would do much for you, I'd have to say yes, but not much. I think that is what dnguyen800 assumed you meant, when I read it I thought you meant which would be the better upgrade choice. Which is the question to which I replied above.
 
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