I agree. However, I think it was so popular because it was the first one in 3D. As far as the story went, it was very lacking, especially in the character development department. Cloud was one of the most boring main characters I've ever played as. In Final Fantasy VIII at the very least, I was mildly interested in why Squall was so sullen and introverted. But Final Fantasy VII, I couldn't care less about any of the characters.
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I agree. However, I think it was so popular because it was the first one in 3D. As far as the story went, it was very lacking, especially in the character development department. Cloud was one of the most boring main characters I've ever played as. In Final Fantasy VIII at the very least, I was mildly interested in why Squall was so sullen and introverted. But Final Fantasy VII, I couldn't care less about any of the characters.
Give me a break, the PC conversion was basically crap (as is the case with many console->PC ports), and sold in much smaller numbers than the PSX version (although acceptable for a PC title). At the time, there were likely more people with playstations than PC's capable of running that game anyway; certainly more people who would be interested in playing FFVII. A playstation was/is much cheaper than buying a new-ish PC, anyway. And if what you say is true, why is FFXI not insanely popular?
FFVII certainly is somewhat overrated, but I think most will agree that FFX and X-2 are more overrated, as they received rave reviews despite being somewhat uninspired and rehashed. FFIX (a better game in my opinion) generally didn't score as high as FFX did. The reason? IMHO, it was because it was developed for PSX rather than PS2.
Final Fantasy IX better? Are you kidding? It was the worst Final Fantasy I played, terrible character design, bad story, and an amazing failure in using the SD look from old Final Fantasy games.
Final Fantasy X was definately better, why? it exceeded IX in every aspect, added the summon system, good story, nice love story, great character design, voices, and incredible cut-scenes.
*Des-ROW predicts the future*
"But Tidus was a whiny bitch!"
<_<
Heh. You nearly read my mind. It's all a matter of opinion, but I thought X was the one with the terrible character design. I didn't dislike Tidus because he was a whiny bitch, it was more because he was a lame surfer dude with a lame new agey girlfriend. 😉
That aside, FFX and X-2 really are decent games in terms of gameplay (especially X-2), although not very innovative. I would probably enjoy them more if I could cope with the lame setting/characters.
To get slightly back on topic, however, Skies of Arcadia destroys both games. 😉
That aside, FFX and X-2 really are decent games in terms of gameplay (especially X-2), although not very innovative. I would probably enjoy them more if I could cope with the lame setting/characters.
To get slightly back on topic, however, Skies of Arcadia destroys both games. 😉
The funny thing is, VF and Sega AGES are all that PoS2 is good for. MGS3 and GT4 are the only good PoS2 exclusives hitting this year. Gimme Twin Snakes (remake I know, but still owns), RE4, Prime 2, Star Fox "2", and a new Zelda anyday over that. The PoS2 doesn't have many exclusive must-haves:
Gran Turismo 3
Devil May Cry
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Gran Turismo 4
Virtua Fighter 4
Virtua Fighter Evolution
Virtua Fighter Final Tuned
Virtual On Marz
All fourteen Sega AGES
Zone of The Enders
And that's all I can think of.
If I wanna experience FFX's "great plot" I'll go play Phantasy Star II. FFIX is the best FF (other than FFIV). It had a great plot, great character design, the most likeable characters in any RPG I've played, and the best soundtrack of any FF game. FFX-2 was nothng more than a cash-in for FFX and Rikku fanboys. Also, Tidus was not a whiny bitch. He was one of the coolest RPG characters ever. He reminds me a lot of myself. The other characters just didn't seem all that interesting. Well.. Wakka and Auron were great. The other characters were just flat and boring. Don't even get me started on Yuna *shudder* Worst FF character ever! Hell, FFVIII (FFVIII was great, just had a terrible plot) was better than FFX! You think FFX had a nice love story?! It was crap! It seemed as though Square decided to throw it in at the last minute. FFX has some of te worst characters, and characters development, of any RPG. Square needs Sakaguchi back. He made all the good ones (FFVII, FFIV, FFIX, and FFVIII). Watch FFXII rip-off yet another RPG, although I am looking forward to it. Given Square's track record on PoS2 though, I have doubts. SERIOUS doubts. Square and EA completely owned, until PoS2, 'Cube, and 'Box hit. After that, the games they released just sucked. I loved Medal of Honor on PSX. Frontline on PoS2 completely blew! Square kicked more ass than anyone. FF - FFIX, Bushido Blade, Tobal, Ehrgeiz, Brave Fencer Musashi, Parasite Eve (Are they gonna make a third one or not?!). The only PoS2 Square game that interests me is The Bouncer. That and FFXII (but Bouncer moreso).
FFX did better than SM64?! You gotta be kidding me! SM64 was very ground-breaking! It proved that free-roaming platformers could work, be beautiful looking, and play great. Although Banjo-Kazooie is god of all platforming games, and god of all N64 games as well. What did FFX do (besides rip-off PSII)? Introduced Sphere Grid (second only to the genius that was the Junction System of FFVIII), and interchangable characters during battle. That's it! It's linear as hell. Sure, I like an RPG that tells me what to do next, but I also wanna explore a bit. FFX was TOO EASY! I wanna try and find the place, that the game tells me to go to.
You wanna know something REALLY funny? The fact that probably about 1/3 of those "80 Million" sold is re-buys due to the hardware malfunctioning! $ony charges nearly as much for repairs as they do for new consoles. That's one reason as to why Mikami is making RE (Well... REmake, RE0, and RE4 anyway) exclusive to 'Cube. As he feels $ony makes their hardware to break. His Walkman, PSX, and PoS2 all broke on him. Hell, my PSX is starting to not read my controllers sometimes. And the amount it costs me to buy new ports, I could just go buy a PSOne! Which I hear is even worse than the PSX at breaking!
Des-ROW, as much as I love you, why is it you gotta act so much like a troll sometimes? Also.. Muffinman! About Des-ROW being sexually attracted to you, you gotta get through ME first! 😉 😎 😀 😛
As for games destroying each other, Phantasy Star IV, Chrono Cross, and Phantasy Star II own ALL!
I dislike 3D, but nevertheless there are good qualities in both 2D and 3D. However, when it comes to 3D animated cut-scenes/ stories with computer generated characters, I really cringe, since no matter how much effort has gone into making it, it never can fully replicate a humans face and emotions. This is one thing which stands in the way of making a truely mind-blowing animation (not game 😉), but from the last TV advert I saw for 'The Final Fantasy Universe' (which was mostly just animation from one of the new FF games), it looked really good. Although, it didn't show any dialogue between characters, or close-up shots of character faces, so perhaps the 'cringe-factor' is still there :huh.
As for the main argument of DC vs PS2 - since I haven't really explored the DC's catalog of games, I don't quite know what's out there. But the PS2, on the other hand, has a handfull of games which I enjoy playing (although I have only played a PS2 a few times, and played only 8 or so games.), so I would say the better choice for me would be PS2.... regardless of the fact that they break down nearly as fast as a turboduo :lol. Heh, bit exaggerated, but you know what I mean 😉
Oh, and just to stir up any FF fans:
Correction - Final Fantasy is one of the most overrated series that ever existed........
As for the main argument of DC vs PS2 - since I haven't really explored the DC's catalog of games, I don't quite know what's out there. But the PS2, on the other hand, has a handfull of games which I enjoy playing (although I have only played a PS2 a few times, and played only 8 or so games.), so I would say the better choice for me would be PS2.... regardless of the fact that they break down nearly as fast as a turboduo :lol. Heh, bit exaggerated, but you know what I mean 😉
Oh, and just to stir up any FF fans:
Correction - Final Fantasy is one of the most overrated series that ever existed........
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Agreed on that last part Crazy.
Des, how can you say skies of arcadia is a horrable game, but ffx/x2 are good? There might be maybe 3 ff games TOPS that even have a chance. Also, Grandia 2 does rock 🙂.
Des, how can you say skies of arcadia is a horrable game, but ffx/x2 are good? There might be maybe 3 ff games TOPS that even have a chance. Also, Grandia 2 does rock 🙂.
