C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

[RockinB]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

Anyone got the prebuilt binaries of Charles MacDonalds Saturn examples to work?

They crash on Satourne and Saturnin, some show little stuff before crashing(unkown opcode). Don't know if they work on real hardware, but the author seemed to test it on real Saturn.

These examples are very interesting, since only free libs are used.

edit: all of them work on real Saturn hardware, really cool stuff especially the vdp1 and win2 examples.

 

[Reinhart]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

The satwin sample works nicely on my real Saturn

The minivader loads but displays only gray vertical lines ...

That the only things I've tried.

 

[RockinB]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

Originally posted by Reinhart@Thu, 2005-05-19 @ 07:05 PM

The satwin sample works nicely on my real Saturn

The minivader loads but displays only gray vertical lines

That the only things I've tried.

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minivader might need a ROM, that one included seems to be a dummy.

 

[Reinhart]

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:slap

silly me

 

[RockinB]

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SaturnOrbit status update:

ELF toolchain working(smaller binaries), I did it similar to ExCyber's fixed SGL.

SBL ASM files converted to GNU as syntax -> no more gasm.bat or gasp usage.

(well, one file of SPR isn't finished yet and the whole stuff needs to be veryfied, although changes are minor)

SBL examples compiled.

(except FLD - outdated - and MPG - missing)

SBL library compiled, except SPR(that single file...) and FLD - missing.

No binaries or ISOs will be included(smaller size),

instead everything can be build(optionally) during setup installation.

Homebrew examples which don't use SGL/SBL are included.

(very fine stuff, and how small the binaries are...)

S**t, only one week left for the GBAX and I haven't done anything for my GP32 game.

Will have to do some magic next week :huh .

 

[vbt]

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Originally posted by Rockin'-B@Fri, 2005-05-20 @ 09:03 PM

(except FLD - outdated - and MPG - missing)

Don't forget we have now the Duck codec with a working player sample thanks to Borisz.

 

[RockinB]

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Originally posted by vbt@Mon, 2005-05-23 @ 10:27 PM

Don't forget we have now the Duck codec with a working player sample thanks to Borisz.

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I'm interested to include the demo and codec stuff.

But I can't find the demo here http://forums.segaxtreme.net/index.php?showtopic=14709&st=0.

If anyone can send me the demo and the codec include headers and libraries. I got a dialup connection, no chance for 100Mb.

 

[vbt]

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Originally posted by Rockin'-B@Tue, 2005-05-24 @ 11:23 AM

I'm interested to include the demo and codec stuff.

But I can't find the demo here http://forums.segaxtreme.net/index.php?showtopic=14709&st=0.

If anyone can send me the demo and the codec include headers and libraries. I got a dialup connection, no chance for 100Mb.

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Take it here :

 

[RockinB]

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Thanks for the download!

All .BAT files should now work with Win9x, too.

There isn't much to do anymore.

My GBAX entry is somehow running on GP32 now, but there are a lot of GP32 specific problems(sound, graphics, memory) to solve and the game itself needs some finetuning.

 

[RockinB]

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I just send in my GP32 entry for GBAX :banana .

It's been luck that I saw the rules don't allow a release before judging took place.

That's been close, I would have been disqualified!

Regarding SaturnOrbit and the contest:

We will see both things going in the next couple of days .

 

[vreuzon]

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I've justed looked at your contest page.

Have there been some kind of discussion about the rules ? I have a few comments.

1. The entry should contain the program sources.

2. The entry should not necessarily mention the contest (what's the reason for ?)

About "ideas", I noticed an inconsistency: I don't understand how "an app/library to access the backup memory of an Action Replay cartridge from within a homebrew game." could be "fun to play".

About publicity, "

- Make pre-releases of betas to get early feedback so you'll be noticed if you're on the wrong track.

- Start an own topic for your entry at segaXtreme's saturn dev board and stay in contact with other devvers. "

I think it's a very good idea. How about opening a general pinned thread about all project news ?

 

[RockinB]

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Originally posted by vreuzon+Mon, 2005-06-06 @ 09:21 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vreuzon @ Mon, 2005-06-06 @ 09:21 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>1. The entry should contain the program sources.[/b]

Of course it is good to have the sources published.

But I know others that are not that much adicted to the open source idea.

In the end it's just another restriction that could lower the number of entries.

Originally posted by vreuzon@Mon, 2005-06-06 @ 09:21 AM

2. The entry should not necessarily mention the contest (what's the reason for ?)

Well, that's common case in a lot of other contests. It's publicity for the contest and signals the gamer that there are other games, too.

Don't ya be ashamed for taking part in the contest, instead be proud!

If it's a big problem, maybe i could ease this rule for you.

(If there's a contest or not, you would release your game in either way, wouldn't you?)

Originally posted by vreuzon@Mon, 2005-06-06 @ 09:21 AM

About "ideas", I noticed an inconsistency: I don't understand how "an app/library to access the backup memory of an Action Replay cartridge from within a homebrew game." could be "fun to play".

Yeah, this way it might sound like an inconsistency.

But it's also said that there is no restriction on the type of entry. So it's allowed. And personally I think it would be useful.

Maybe I should write "something to have a good time with" instead.

But it's not meant like "create a shooter", just a hint/advice to avoid crap. I'll see how I could write it better.

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About publicity, "

- Make pre-releases of betas to get early feedback so you'll be noticed if you're on the wrong track.

- Start an own topic for your entry at segaXtreme's saturn dev board and stay in contact with other devvers. "

I think it's a very good idea. How about opening a general pinned thread about all project news ?

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Yeah, good idea to pin it.

 

[Omni]

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I see no problem with giving sources, actually...I mean, honestly, you're not hurting anyone by making them release source, as they have to write source anyway. Plus, since you're trying to encourage the Saturn developers and community, more code to look at is almost always a plus. Having more games that beginners can just peek into and see how they did what is bound to be useful.

But, I'm not in this, so. Not my decision...

 

[RockinB]

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Topic is pinned, thanks to IceMan2k!

About opening the entries sources:

I will most likely open the sources of my entry, too. And I'm sure others will do so.

But I can't force people to do so.

When I have to decide between:

entry without sources <- or -> no entry at all

I take the entry without sources.

Thanks for your opinion, be sure that I really care about that.

 

[vreuzon]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

Originally posted by Rockin'-B@Tue, 2005-06-07 @ 01:12 PM

(If there's a contest or not, you would release your game in either way, wouldn't you?)

Yes, I would. Consistency can be added in the cd menu.

As you mentioned a contest CD containing all entries, programmers should be aware by now of the size limitations it implies: for instance, audio track length (and position on the cd), and (less probably) loadable data size; as well as the code startup memory location.

 

[Berty]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

I can host some files if need on my website, just send me an email

 

[RockinB]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

I registered my entry at the C4 -2005 entries page.

(I won't get a price, these are for you, but a ranking)

Everyone who wants to make an entry, please register there, too. :agree

You don't have to unveil all information now, because you can modify all provided info later.

Originally posted by vreuzon+Wed, 2005-06-08 @ 10:29 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vreuzon @ Wed, 2005-06-08 @ 10:29 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>As you mentioned a contest CD containing all entries, programmers should be aware by now of the size limitations it implies: for instance, audio track length (and position on the cd), and (less probably) loadable data size; as well as the code startup memory location.

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Yes, I made a little update to the C4 - 2005 main page. Just have to find out the correct parameter for SYS_Exit().

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Good, I'll contact you when the contest CD is done.

 

[vreuzon]

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I've just registered with "stephano karate maitre", a 12 player karate game.

 

[RockinB]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

Originally posted by vreuzon@Fri, 2005-06-10 @ 11:43 AM

I've just registered with "stephano karate maitre", a 12 player karate game.

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Thanks, vreuzon!

What about the others?

I'm currently making a tutorial on the basics needed to create a Saturn game.

This might help others to migrate to the Saturn console development.

I want to encourage all of you to support the contest. :agree

Help with publicity:

Spread the word in this and other message boards,

and feel free to use the C4 - 2005 banner in your signature.

The C4 - 2005 got postings on several websites:

dcemu.co.uk

dchomebrew.org

pdroms.de

segaxtreme.net

racketboy.blogspot.com

consolevision.com

rockin-b.de

speedacm newsletter

Thanks to all of them for the support!

Donating a prize:

Apart from puplicity, support can also be expressed by prize donations.

Got any videogame console or game you want to give for a prize?

Money is also possible.

Making an entry:

The most effective support is by making an entry!

 

[RockinB]

C4 - 2005 & 2006 discussion

My dear fellows,

the first C4 - 2005 entry has just been released!

Grab WinterSports Eins for Saturn on The Rockin'-B website or (soon) on the C4 - 2005 entries page.

The first mark is set, try to beat it!