Finally got it
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It's time for me to speak I think!
*Silender wears his uniform & enters the war*
First of all: NO OFFENSE to ANYONE so don't missread me please.
Cool!!! 3 Sega's games are in the top 5!!!! Hail SEGA!!!
Let's see!!!
Fighting: Dead or Alive 3, Soul Calibur 2 (PS2 version doesn't stand a chance)
Shooting: Panzer Dragoon Orta (need more???)
RPGs: Shenmue 2, Morrowind, Lord of the Rings(exclusive), Dungeons & Dragons Heroes, Star Wars:KotOR
I can't see where is the good point here. ???
It seems that Sony don't want (the gamers) to forget of PSX's (mostly) non-quality past. LOL
So PS2 can play PSX games! If I wanna play PSX games I can buy a PSX with less money or download a bleem or an EPSXE and play with a better quality. Besides I have to remind you about "Bleemcast". That was the first step! The next one is a complete PSX emulator for X-Box. No reason to buy a PS2 to play PSX games. If you have PSX games you also have the original System or an emulator.
Hehe!! Good sense of humor.
Nope!!! I don't like it too
Try to play Capcom VS SNK with it (or every other 2D Fighting with that kind of special moves).
I personally, will never buy a PS2.
I love it. It reminds me the DC's one. *hugs a phot of the controler*
Ever noticed that PS2 is out before GC and X-Box? It is logical to out sold a console when it has 6 months instead of 2 years. By your thinking method NES still outsold PS2 so it's the best one!
Nope!
PSX may has FF7,8,9 but NOT 4,5,6. These are SNES games do not count them or else you have to count Tekken 3, Metal Gear Solid and Grand Turismo 2 for Dreamcast as well (see bleemcast).
You said that you know that Lunar were on both consoles so why you mention it? We speak for games here not for languages. Shining Force 3 scenarios 2 & 3 are in Japanese too but I enjoy them equally with the first one (God blesses Aspinia team, Moogie, Aspartate, Lineage and the the rest of them). Let me tell you something: Dracula X was way better on Saturn with these Jap voices and I prefer them from that "mama-give-me-my-milk" voice on the PSX version (I speak for the "Dark Metamorphosis" and "Soul Steal" voices). Also you mentioned Crhono Cross but you forgot to mention Suikoden which is one of the good PSX (and Saturn) titles. Do not try to change my mind with shooting games! PSX is a joke in front of Saturn's huge shooting library. Almost every PSX shooting game (vertical or horizontal) is either ported from Saturn or just crappy. Leave the 2D job to the master. Yes FFtactics is the ONLY game from that series that I like but it has vanished in the Shadow of the mighty Shining Force 3 which is a strategy RPG just like FFT(It seems that even now that you played SF3 you cannot recognise a RPG from a Strategy RPG), there are also Langrisser 3,4,5,Drama Edition and DragonForce 1 & 2. So... yes Saturn hasn't Strategy RPGs of that calibur... it has way better.
Now that you mentioned... Saturn showed how the games must be even in his death period.
Yes but first you prove the opposite(no stupid site links and shit cause i can make a huge site and tell a bunch or rumors too, am I right?).
Good excuse but... I can't see your answer to him.
Sony promised a lot. Remember the 75 million polygons per second and 48GB/s of memory bandwidth? I do. The 75 million number was reduced to 66 million. Afterwards, it was admitted that these PS2 numbers were a peak performance figure for flat -shaded, identically shaped polygons. Unfortunately, the image of the PS2 as some sort of polygon monster had already become firmly entrenched in the minds of the mainstream media. Sega chose a more conservative approach, which is in keeping with their new business philosophy - to regain the trust and confidence of gamers. Since its introduction two years ago, Sega has never mislead gamers about the Dreamcast's power. 3+ million polygons is all that Sega ever claims, even though new games like Test Drive: Le Mans push closer to five million in 3D scenes loaded with effects.The truth is that the PS2 has never displayed more than 2-3 million polys in a game. The main problem is a memory one. With only a 4MB VRAM cache on its GS graphics processor, the PS2 is severely limited in what it can achieve on screen. While it's true that 32MB of main memory and the fairly powerful Emotion Engine processor are capable of producing in the neighbourhood of 10-12 million textured and lit polygons/second, the poor design of the GS and its small pipeline to main memory restrict the final number to roughly half of that. What? You mean, regardless of the power of the EE processor and the large amount of available memory, the PS2 is still only capable of displaying 5-6 million on-screen polygons? The answer, unfortunately, is yes. By contrast, the Dreamcast has only 16 MB of main memory and a processor that is only capable of one-half the number of polygons/second - ie. 5- 6 million - but the whole point of the exercise is to get these onto your television. An intelligent memory saving technique known as differed rendering, coupled with the PowerVR2DC graphics chip's hardware texture compression abilities, allow the Dreamcast to display all of its generated polygons. To better understand the PS2's limitations and the Dreamcast's strengths, you need only look at the available video memory for your answer. While the DC has 8MB of VRAM, the PS2 has only 4MB of VRAM. The main problem arises because a polygon takes up roughly 40 bytes of RAM. When you have 5 million of them in a given second, this amounts to 5 million/60fps = 83,333 polygons in a give frame of animation. If each of these polygons uses 40 bytes of VRAM, you will use 3.33 MB displaying these 5 million PPS. This doesn't leave the PS2 much room for it's framebuffer which uses around 1.2MB just to display the end data, not to mention that you still need to leave room for textures to put on those polygons. Ahhhh Sony, to reach these numbers you have first beat the poor Dreamcast's Dead or Alive 2 number (2.300.000 in the dragon-statue stage). Sony may provide us 60Hz to all games with PS3 a hard drive too, maybe a better DVD player or hologramic screen and it may won't need a TV to play on it and who knows how many other lies for their new "diamond". The company doesn't change the machine's name just for not loosing the "Playstation" sound to the ear of the buyer. PS3 will be another "miracle" in the paper.
Yes and you still dare to compare PS2 sales with the ones of GC & X-box which both are 6 months out (or less?)!!!! Man.. are your nuts??
Yes but it may be possible to emulate the first PSX...
Piece of advice to Zero 9: Friend don't take seriously what everyone is writing on revies or average scores. I work in my local area's Game Magazine but the mayjor editor had been proposed from SONY to pay us instead of raising our scores by one point (out of 10) back in the 32-bit era. Just believe what you see when we speak for games.
Easy boy, easy. Let me handle it Mighty Wizard of Light Gallstaff. *Silender draws his Longsword*
Nope!!! But it's hard to me to understand why DC has about 700+ and from these the 500 are good, Saturn has 1500+ and the 1000 are good, PS2 has 500+ and 50 are good(maybe I give too much with that "50").
Have you played Ridge Racer V or Tekken Tag tournament??? Let's don't speak for first generation games(cause X-box still is in the first one) PS2 doesn't stand a chance.
It has it!!! PANZER DRAGOON ORTA!!! This game will be the mayjor reason for my X-Box if I buy one.
Poor kid! How wrong you are. You can't see the difference between an RPG combat system(time bars, mass playing) and an overhead strategy turn based RPG combat system?
I've played it and I admire that kind of games. It's very similar to Tactics Ogre and way better from that sucky FMV series... oops I mean FF series!
Erm... Yes VF4 is better but not completly gang rapes. It has awsome backgrounds IMHO.
Yes he does!!!
Sorry if I sound offensive but for another time: I have no problem with anyone(except one ba***rd who is banned right now).
OFF TOPIC:
-DBOY- Nice avatars man. Are some of them from Emerald Dragon?
*Silender wears his uniform & enters the war*
First of all: NO OFFENSE to ANYONE so don't missread me please.
Cool!!! 3 Sega's games are in the top 5!!!! Hail SEGA!!!
Let's see!!!
Fighting: Dead or Alive 3, Soul Calibur 2 (PS2 version doesn't stand a chance)
Shooting: Panzer Dragoon Orta (need more???)
RPGs: Shenmue 2, Morrowind, Lord of the Rings(exclusive), Dungeons & Dragons Heroes, Star Wars:KotOR
I can't see where is the good point here. ???
It seems that Sony don't want (the gamers) to forget of PSX's (mostly) non-quality past. LOL
So PS2 can play PSX games! If I wanna play PSX games I can buy a PSX with less money or download a bleem or an EPSXE and play with a better quality. Besides I have to remind you about "Bleemcast". That was the first step! The next one is a complete PSX emulator for X-Box. No reason to buy a PS2 to play PSX games. If you have PSX games you also have the original System or an emulator.
Hehe!! Good sense of humor.
Nope!!! I don't like it too
Try to play Capcom VS SNK with it (or every other 2D Fighting with that kind of special moves).
I personally, will never buy a PS2.
I love it. It reminds me the DC's one. *hugs a phot of the controler*
Ever noticed that PS2 is out before GC and X-Box? It is logical to out sold a console when it has 6 months instead of 2 years. By your thinking method NES still outsold PS2 so it's the best one!
The best games for each Genre?(are you kidding me)
Rpg: PDS is great,but way to short!The Shining Force 3 games are the best the saturn had.(im actually playing it now)
PS has Final Fantasy(4-9)Xenogears, Chrono Cross and Lunar!(yes i know the Saturn had Lunar as well, but only in Japan)
ShootersS has Einhander(which is just awesome)Funny you should mention Radiant Silvergun,seeing as you got on me earlier for mentioning the japanese market...
Strategy:the PS has Final Fantasy Tactics,i can assure you the Saturn doesnt have a strategy game of that calibur.
Nope!
PSX may has FF7,8,9 but NOT 4,5,6. These are SNES games do not count them or else you have to count Tekken 3, Metal Gear Solid and Grand Turismo 2 for Dreamcast as well (see bleemcast).
You said that you know that Lunar were on both consoles so why you mention it? We speak for games here not for languages. Shining Force 3 scenarios 2 & 3 are in Japanese too but I enjoy them equally with the first one (God blesses Aspinia team, Moogie, Aspartate, Lineage and the the rest of them). Let me tell you something: Dracula X was way better on Saturn with these Jap voices and I prefer them from that "mama-give-me-my-milk" voice on the PSX version (I speak for the "Dark Metamorphosis" and "Soul Steal" voices). Also you mentioned Crhono Cross but you forgot to mention Suikoden which is one of the good PSX (and Saturn) titles. Do not try to change my mind with shooting games! PSX is a joke in front of Saturn's huge shooting library. Almost every PSX shooting game (vertical or horizontal) is either ported from Saturn or just crappy. Leave the 2D job to the master. Yes FFtactics is the ONLY game from that series that I like but it has vanished in the Shadow of the mighty Shining Force 3 which is a strategy RPG just like FFT(It seems that even now that you played SF3 you cannot recognise a RPG from a Strategy RPG), there are also Langrisser 3,4,5,Drama Edition and DragonForce 1 & 2. So... yes Saturn hasn't Strategy RPGs of that calibur... it has way better.
Now that you mentioned... Saturn showed how the games must be even in his death period.
Yes but first you prove the opposite(no stupid site links and shit cause i can make a huge site and tell a bunch or rumors too, am I right?).
Good excuse but... I can't see your answer to him.
Sony promised a lot. Remember the 75 million polygons per second and 48GB/s of memory bandwidth? I do. The 75 million number was reduced to 66 million. Afterwards, it was admitted that these PS2 numbers were a peak performance figure for flat -shaded, identically shaped polygons. Unfortunately, the image of the PS2 as some sort of polygon monster had already become firmly entrenched in the minds of the mainstream media. Sega chose a more conservative approach, which is in keeping with their new business philosophy - to regain the trust and confidence of gamers. Since its introduction two years ago, Sega has never mislead gamers about the Dreamcast's power. 3+ million polygons is all that Sega ever claims, even though new games like Test Drive: Le Mans push closer to five million in 3D scenes loaded with effects.The truth is that the PS2 has never displayed more than 2-3 million polys in a game. The main problem is a memory one. With only a 4MB VRAM cache on its GS graphics processor, the PS2 is severely limited in what it can achieve on screen. While it's true that 32MB of main memory and the fairly powerful Emotion Engine processor are capable of producing in the neighbourhood of 10-12 million textured and lit polygons/second, the poor design of the GS and its small pipeline to main memory restrict the final number to roughly half of that. What? You mean, regardless of the power of the EE processor and the large amount of available memory, the PS2 is still only capable of displaying 5-6 million on-screen polygons? The answer, unfortunately, is yes. By contrast, the Dreamcast has only 16 MB of main memory and a processor that is only capable of one-half the number of polygons/second - ie. 5- 6 million - but the whole point of the exercise is to get these onto your television. An intelligent memory saving technique known as differed rendering, coupled with the PowerVR2DC graphics chip's hardware texture compression abilities, allow the Dreamcast to display all of its generated polygons. To better understand the PS2's limitations and the Dreamcast's strengths, you need only look at the available video memory for your answer. While the DC has 8MB of VRAM, the PS2 has only 4MB of VRAM. The main problem arises because a polygon takes up roughly 40 bytes of RAM. When you have 5 million of them in a given second, this amounts to 5 million/60fps = 83,333 polygons in a give frame of animation. If each of these polygons uses 40 bytes of VRAM, you will use 3.33 MB displaying these 5 million PPS. This doesn't leave the PS2 much room for it's framebuffer which uses around 1.2MB just to display the end data, not to mention that you still need to leave room for textures to put on those polygons. Ahhhh Sony, to reach these numbers you have first beat the poor Dreamcast's Dead or Alive 2 number (2.300.000 in the dragon-statue stage). Sony may provide us 60Hz to all games with PS3 a hard drive too, maybe a better DVD player or hologramic screen and it may won't need a TV to play on it and who knows how many other lies for their new "diamond". The company doesn't change the machine's name just for not loosing the "Playstation" sound to the ear of the buyer. PS3 will be another "miracle" in the paper.
Yes and you still dare to compare PS2 sales with the ones of GC & X-box which both are 6 months out (or less?)!!!! Man.. are your nuts??
Yes but it may be possible to emulate the first PSX...
Piece of advice to Zero 9: Friend don't take seriously what everyone is writing on revies or average scores. I work in my local area's Game Magazine but the mayjor editor had been proposed from SONY to pay us instead of raising our scores by one point (out of 10) back in the 32-bit era. Just believe what you see when we speak for games.
Easy boy, easy. Let me handle it Mighty Wizard of Light Gallstaff. *Silender draws his Longsword*
Nope!!! But it's hard to me to understand why DC has about 700+ and from these the 500 are good, Saturn has 1500+ and the 1000 are good, PS2 has 500+ and 50 are good(maybe I give too much with that "50").
Have you played Ridge Racer V or Tekken Tag tournament??? Let's don't speak for first generation games(cause X-box still is in the first one) PS2 doesn't stand a chance.
It has it!!! PANZER DRAGOON ORTA!!! This game will be the mayjor reason for my X-Box if I buy one.
Poor kid! How wrong you are. You can't see the difference between an RPG combat system(time bars, mass playing) and an overhead strategy turn based RPG combat system?
I've played it and I admire that kind of games. It's very similar to Tactics Ogre and way better from that sucky FMV series... oops I mean FF series!
Erm... Yes VF4 is better but not completly gang rapes. It has awsome backgrounds IMHO.
Yes he does!!!
Sorry if I sound offensive but for another time: I have no problem with anyone(except one ba***rd who is banned right now).
OFF TOPIC:
-DBOY- Nice avatars man. Are some of them from Emerald Dragon?
Not to dissect every wrong point you make, but Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6 did come out on PSX (FF Anthology, FF Chronicles) and Panzer Dragoon Orta is not a shooter in the classic sense which I assume was the point he was making.. The PSX has two exclusive shooters that can arguably compete with anything on Saturn in Einhander and R-Type Delta. Also, the guy says the PS2 sold more in its LAUNCH PERIOD than the competitors did in theirs, not overall. Actually I only read about half your post because it was so irritatingly uninformed. You give the impression you'd rather people didn't enjoy games on a Sony console just because it is a Sony console they're playing them on.. Really, your post seems to prove nothing other than which you personally prefer, which I'm sure means nothing to anyone else.. just as what myself or whoever prefers should mean nothing to anyone else.. Such a long post could at least have had something of substance.
If it isn't Myname!
I didn't refused the FF4,5,6 existense on PSX, I just mentioned that they AREN'T PSX games but SNES games ported to PSX!
As for Panzer Dragoon Orta... He said shooter and it IS a shooter.
R-Type Delta in front of Radiant Silvergun??? I'll let the shooting fans to answer this one!
Do you want me to remind you Saturn's lauch period sells in comparison with the mighty Playstation?? Of course not. The launch sells mean nothing man. The game is played till 90' let it roll.
I just correct the mistakes of my previous posters... nothing more, nothing less!
You know something? You are really heard like a Sony Fanboy to me. Me? I like them all(Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, NEC, 3DO, Philips...). I don't have problem with your mockings to me and I accept your critics but do accept mine too.
Also we're not here to speak for me (as you do in your post) but for Ratta's X-Box (Happy gaming Ratt
) versus PS2.
Right now the best console out there is Game Boy Advance. So much gems in such a little time. GOLDEN SUN RULES!
I didn't refused the FF4,5,6 existense on PSX, I just mentioned that they AREN'T PSX games but SNES games ported to PSX!
As for Panzer Dragoon Orta... He said shooter and it IS a shooter.
R-Type Delta in front of Radiant Silvergun??? I'll let the shooting fans to answer this one!
Do you want me to remind you Saturn's lauch period sells in comparison with the mighty Playstation?? Of course not. The launch sells mean nothing man. The game is played till 90' let it roll.
I just correct the mistakes of my previous posters... nothing more, nothing less!
You know something? You are really heard like a Sony Fanboy to me. Me? I like them all(Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, NEC, 3DO, Philips...). I don't have problem with your mockings to me and I accept your critics but do accept mine too.
Also we're not here to speak for me (as you do in your post) but for Ratta's X-Box (Happy gaming Ratt
Right now the best console out there is Game Boy Advance. So much gems in such a little time. GOLDEN SUN RULES!
Originally posted by Silender@June 28 2002,20:06
As for Panzer Dragoon Orta... He said shooter and it IS a shooter.
R-Type Delta in front of Radiant Silvergun??? I'll let the shooting fans to answer this one!
Do you want me to remind you Saturn's lauch period sells in comparison with the mighty Playstation?? Of course not. The launch sells mean nothing man. The game is played till 90' let it roll.
You know something? You are really heard like a Sony Fanboy to me. Me? I like them all(Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, NEC, 3DO, Philips...).
OK, let's go through slowly. I said R-Type Delta and Einhander can ARGUABLY compete with anything on the Saturn. Plus to compare RTD and RS is fairly pointless as one is horizontal and on is vertical. And as it happens, shoot em ups are my favourite genre so whatever.. I didn't say one was better than the other. If Panzer Dragoon games are shooters then Doom is also a shooter. But that does not mean they are shoot em ups in the generally recieved sense which is, I believe, what he was referring to. As for launch sales, I never said it meant anything just that you misread what the guy was saying in order to try and make a point. Calling me a 'Sony fanboy' is something I'd expect on other boards but not on this one. In case you haven't noticed this is a Sega board and that is why I'm here. So far as it goes, I have more Nintendo and Sega games and systems than I have Sony.. But if you want to put that label on me I won't be crying myself to sleep at night over it. I am not for any system or against any others, I hate Microsoft but I admit the Xbox is a nice (if green) piece of kit. All I'm suggesting is that you at least try to view all the consoles in the same light regardless of who they were made by.
At least we agree on one thing, the GBA. Unfortunately I ruined mine getting that horrible 'Nintendo' logo off and writing 'SONY' in permanent marker all over it.
He spoke for Shoot-em-ups or just shooters? I thought that he wanted shooters. If I'm wrong i apology. You're wrong if you believe that we can't compare a vertical shooter with a horizontal one. See Shenryu(or Donpachi? I don't remember) you can rotate the camera and from vertical it became horizontal. Hehe, Actually I have to intension of attacking you or anyone else here and I don't want this thread to became a PSX VS Saturn so stop it. Don't blame me for the "fanboy thing" but you deserve it with what you wrote about the GBA. Just forget it. I already see all consoles with the same eyes but as I already said I just answered in some quotes here, right? I feel sorry for your GBA this mark may be your dream but it will remain a dream (Golden sun on a Sony console? NO WAY!!! Camelot gave a try with "Beyond the Beyond" but PSX's owners rejected that masterpiece [with low sales]). My PSX is still in one piece as I just bought it. I'm not the kind of yours. And being a member of a Sega board doesn't stops/means that you're a fanboy of another company/console, that is.
Have a nice day.
Have a nice day.
My GBA comment was what's known as 'sarcasm'.. I really can't be bothered with having any kind of discussion about this anymore. Maybe you should come back when you can qualify your claims with something other than schoolyard insults.
Edit: If you think you're up to it, I'd like you to PM me with the part where I make myself look stupid, just out of interest because I can't find it. Don't post here since I'm sure this is as boring for everyone else as it is for me.
Edit: If you think you're up to it, I'd like you to PM me with the part where I make myself look stupid, just out of interest because I can't find it. Don't post here since I'm sure this is as boring for everyone else as it is for me.
Soul Calibur 2 was developed for System 246, so saying that the PS2 version of SC2 doesn't stand a chance is like saying that the Dreamcast version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 doesn't stand a chance.
This might make sense if the GS required display lists to reside in VRAM, but it doesn't. Oh, and you could at least make some mention that you're using a rather large chunk of an article written by someone else...
That feature exists to allow the use of the original arcade aspect ratio for games that have a 3:4 aspect ratio rather than 4:3 (i.e. a vertical monitor). It's pretty tough to play with the controls rotated. Besides, the vertical and horizontal shooters come from somewhat different design traditions - vertical shooters tend to emphasize free movement, while horizontal ones usually require the player to navigate hazardous terrain; vertical shooters tend to throw huge numbers of enemies/bullets at the player, while horizontal ones usually apply some combination of specific enemy formation and terrain to create difficult situations; and so on. I wouldn't go so far as to say that they can't be compared, but the distinction does generally extend to things beyond just the geometric orientation.
"This might make sense if the GS required display lists to reside in VRAM, but it doesn't. Oh, and you could at least make some mention that you're using a rather large chunk of an article written by someone else..."
I've never said that these are my words and as you can see I've used quotes from VG articles in the past.
"Soul Calibur 2 was developed for System 246, so saying that the PS2 version of SC2 doesn't stand a chance is like saying that the Dreamcast version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 doesn't stand a chance."
Yes I know that but you believe that it will not be better on nVidia's chipset?
Also, you look to deep for the shooting games. I just play with a plane or spaceship which firing lasers and missiles why to do it so difficult with 4:3 and 3:4? j/k
I've never said that these are my words and as you can see I've used quotes from VG articles in the past.
"Soul Calibur 2 was developed for System 246, so saying that the PS2 version of SC2 doesn't stand a chance is like saying that the Dreamcast version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 doesn't stand a chance."
Yes I know that but you believe that it will not be better on nVidia's chipset?
Also, you look to deep for the shooting games. I just play with a plane or spaceship which firing lasers and missiles why to do it so difficult with 4:3 and 3:4? j/k
To think this thread is still going.... ???
The debate rages on.....
The debate rages on.....
Quote Silender:
Ever noticed that PS2 is out before GC and X-Box? It is logical to out sold a console when it has 6 months instead of 2 years. By your thinking method NES still outsold PS2 so it's the best one!
Yes and you still dare to compare PS2 sales with the ones of GC & X-box which both are 6 months out (or less?)!!!! Man.. are your nuts??
Nope!!! But it's hard to me to understand why DC has about 700+ and from these the 500 are good, Saturn has 1500+ and the 1000 are good, PS2 has 500+ and 50 are good(maybe I give too much with that "50").
Have you played Ridge Racer V or Tekken Tag tournament??? Let's don't speak for first generation games(cause X-box still is in the first one) PS2 doesn't stand a chance.
Poor kid! How wrong you are. You can't see the difference between an RPG combat system(time bars, mass playing) and an overhead strategy turn based RPG combat system?
(all above comments are from Silender)
i said during their launch periods(GC & Xbox)...you obviously didnt read what i had to say...ok once again someone wasnt reading my posts if you noticed i said the PS2 was still outselling the Xbox and Gamecube(i think its safe to say that everyone here knows that the ps2 has been out longer)yeah i like those numbers on DC,Saturn and PS2 games...you must like to play alot of crap games(Saturn 1000+ good games lmao)actually i have played Ridge Racer 5 and Tekken Tag Tournament...theyre good games(i have both)...once again if you actually read and pay close attention to what i say youll see that i was saying you cant call Shining Force 3 just a strategy game...because its not...its a Strategy Rpg...basically the only difference between Shining Force and every other Rpg is how you fight battles...
Ever noticed that PS2 is out before GC and X-Box? It is logical to out sold a console when it has 6 months instead of 2 years. By your thinking method NES still outsold PS2 so it's the best one!
Yes and you still dare to compare PS2 sales with the ones of GC & X-box which both are 6 months out (or less?)!!!! Man.. are your nuts??
Nope!!! But it's hard to me to understand why DC has about 700+ and from these the 500 are good, Saturn has 1500+ and the 1000 are good, PS2 has 500+ and 50 are good(maybe I give too much with that "50").
Have you played Ridge Racer V or Tekken Tag tournament??? Let's don't speak for first generation games(cause X-box still is in the first one) PS2 doesn't stand a chance.
Poor kid! How wrong you are. You can't see the difference between an RPG combat system(time bars, mass playing) and an overhead strategy turn based RPG combat system?
(all above comments are from Silender)
i said during their launch periods(GC & Xbox)...you obviously didnt read what i had to say...ok once again someone wasnt reading my posts if you noticed i said the PS2 was still outselling the Xbox and Gamecube(i think its safe to say that everyone here knows that the ps2 has been out longer)yeah i like those numbers on DC,Saturn and PS2 games...you must like to play alot of crap games(Saturn 1000+ good games lmao)actually i have played Ridge Racer 5 and Tekken Tag Tournament...theyre good games(i have both)...once again if you actually read and pay close attention to what i say youll see that i was saying you cant call Shining Force 3 just a strategy game...because its not...its a Strategy Rpg...basically the only difference between Shining Force and every other Rpg is how you fight battles...
Hi there!
(It's getting dark here)
Yes I already settled the "launch-selling thing" with Ex ans Myname. No point to repeat.
How you know that a game is a crap before you play it?
I didn't say that Ridge Racer and Tekken tag were bad but they aren't these games Sony promised for the beast they told us. I got my first disappointment from these two.
Hmmm. you quote me but you don't read me. I said that SF3 is a strategy RPG with overhead turn based battles. I never mentioned it as a strategy one. Warcraft is strategy!
OFF TOPIC: "Golden Sun 2: Lost Age" is out. Come on Japanese speakers.Go and grab it. W00t W00t
Yes I already settled the "launch-selling thing" with Ex ans Myname. No point to repeat.
How you know that a game is a crap before you play it?
I didn't say that Ridge Racer and Tekken tag were bad but they aren't these games Sony promised for the beast they told us. I got my first disappointment from these two.
Hmmm. you quote me but you don't read me. I said that SF3 is a strategy RPG with overhead turn based battles. I never mentioned it as a strategy one. Warcraft is strategy!
OFF TOPIC: "Golden Sun 2: Lost Age" is out. Come on Japanese speakers.Go and grab it. W00t W00t
Quote Silender:
Yes I already settled the "launch-selling thing" with Ex ans Myname. No point to repeat.
Hmmm. you quote me but you don't readf me. I said that SF3 is a strategy RPG with overhead turn based battles. I never mentioned it as a strategy one. Warcraft is strategy!
yeah sorry...i hadnt made my way through your book of a post yet...you said i didnt know the difference...i was just pointing out that i did...
Yes I already settled the "launch-selling thing" with Ex ans Myname. No point to repeat.
Hmmm. you quote me but you don't readf me. I said that SF3 is a strategy RPG with overhead turn based battles. I never mentioned it as a strategy one. Warcraft is strategy!
yeah sorry...i hadnt made my way through your book of a post yet...you said i didnt know the difference...i was just pointing out that i did...