Okay, well sorry for the biting remarks then.. once again, it just irritated me at the time and I get prone to zealotry when I'm irritated. I do get rather sick of bland layouts over and over again... one huge pet peeve of mine is sites that have all the sections stuck into a big frame on the left side (especially long lists), for example. Guess I should be more on-topic, though... I'm kind of indifferent about the layout of Ice's site. It's pretty usable, but it does have that 'NASCAR' feel to it, heh. I think the arrangement of elements probably fits the amount of content he has to present pretty well, though.
edit - before anyone thinks I'm being too much of a pompous asshole (probably too late for that), I will admit that I'm a crappy web designer. I made my first web page back in 1993 with nothing but emacs, xv, and deluxe paint IV, and I've pretty much stuck to a similar technique for everything I've done since. 😉 ... although I understand the technical rationale behind the way HTML is implemented, I get extremely peeved about not having total control over fonts, text flow, etc.. I haven't made any sites that I consider beautiful or easily navigable, and I'm not proud of it. 😉