Somehow I seriously doubt it. And a Saturn dev unit wouldn't help at all. You still need to go through the expensive mastering process to get a proper saturn playable disc. Unless they find a large stash of Saturn CDR's don't bet on it.Originally posted by Daniel Eriksson@May 17, 2003 @ 03:36 PM
Wow! If they do, will the cds be playable on a normal saturn? I mean, they might got an old Saturn Dev Unit left...Maybe Prolific will take on the distribution in U.S. so you donÂ´t have to pay the high postage
Actually no. Carts are alot cheaper to make. Especially if you're only going to be doing low quantities of them. A typical cart would cost maybe $5 these days. With CD's you need to get a master done which can run into several thousands to make. And thats even before getting a license from sega to use the security ring and actually stamping the minimum (usually several thousand) disc you need to do to make this even worth the effort.Originally posted by AntiPasta@May 18, 2003 @ 09:48 AM
well, the Battlesphere guys managed to get Jaguar carts manufactured 5 years after the system's death... and carts are more expensive to produce...
A typical cart isn't going to cost $5 unless you use mask ROM, which also requires having a "master" made.A typical cart would cost maybe $5 these days. With CD's you need to get a master done which can run into several thousands to make.
Saturn CDRs don't have the security ring on them.Originally posted by mal+May 18, 2003 @ 06:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mal @ May 18, 2003 @ 06:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-gameboy900@May 18, 2003 @ 11:24 AM
Unless they find a large stash of Saturn CDR's don't bet on it.
So if there is no security ring, maybe they did another way of telling the Saturn that this disc is original (i.e. by a file on CD?) - and maybe someone now has a chance to do some coding that a standard CDÂ´R would be playable on Saturn!?!?Originally posted by mal@May 19, 2003 @ 05:46 AM
Fair enough, but the beta I have is on a "Sega Saturn" CDR (not a brand name or generic CDR) and it has no security ring.
And is it possible to copy this "boot" disc?Originally posted by mal@May 19, 2003 @ 11:55 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the beta CDR came with the System (boot) disc that I recently bought.
BTW gameboy900, I'm not arguing with you, I'd just never heard of a CDR with the security ring - other than in rumours and hearsay of course.
So no chance of get Return Fire running without swap or modboard/-chip...Originally posted by mal@May 19, 2003 @ 12:43 PM
Yes, but unless you have a CDR with the security ring on it, you're back at square one.
You can use it to boot most (all?) 3rd party discs, but you'd need to swap the boot disc to get it to run.
I've seen pictures, but can't find any just now (was probably in an eBay auction). When the Saturn was new, CD recorders were very uncommon and development took place on custom devboxes so it made sense to provide plain CD-Rs to developers. Later, when development had moved away from custom hardware towards cartdev and similar methods, testing could be performed better and more cheaply on standard Saturns so bootable CD-Rs made more sense then.Originally posted by mal@May 19, 2003 @ 01:55 PM
I'd just never heard of a CDR with the security ring - other than in rumours and hearsay of course.