Sonic and the Secret of the Rings for the 30/03/2007
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Maybe it's just me, but this is the only way for Sonic to go back to his/its roots is to do a pseudo rails type game (if we're going to insist on 3D), like Sonic R or Panzer Dragoon Orta, with branching levels, like Outrun, which is what this appears to be.
Sonic in 3D space is too much like a 'Sonic in Mario world', and you lose what made the game so great - ridiculous speed, beautiful vibrant worlds and attitude.
Article on the game here: http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/11022/title/Sonic_and_the_Secret_Rings_Due_March_07.html
Maybe what the Sonic franchise needs is the Wii. Maybe the controller will give back something that was lost once it made the switch from 2D to 2.5D (Sonic 3D for the Saturn). I will say Sonic for the N-Gage is pretty fun, even if the game doesn't work well with the screen.
Sonic in 3D space is too much like a 'Sonic in Mario world', and you lose what made the game so great - ridiculous speed, beautiful vibrant worlds and attitude.
Article on the game here: http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/11022/title/Sonic_and_the_Secret_Rings_Due_March_07.html
Maybe what the Sonic franchise needs is the Wii. Maybe the controller will give back something that was lost once it made the switch from 2D to 2.5D (Sonic 3D for the Saturn). I will say Sonic for the N-Gage is pretty fun, even if the game doesn't work well with the screen.
yeah I too miss the old 2d platform sonic. The new sonic games just don't get me excited like when I bought sonic 2 for my genesis all those years ago.
Honestly, I think it was a miracle that Mario transitioned so well into 3D. Nintendo knows what they are doing. The Sonic Adventure games weren't bad, but let's face it; Sonic is a 2D game. It was designed very well in 2D - to translate it is difficult. It can be done, but Sega really needs to understand the 3D world better.
To me, Sonic is built around speed. The SA games definitely capitalized on that, but was "on-rails" as was stated before. If you want a free-form 3D Sonic game, you'll need to give Sonic a safety-net, an "air-bag". I don't know exactly how to do this, but you'd need to keep the sense of speed while giving the breadth of freedom a 3D game has to offer. I think it can be done; it was done to certain extent in the 2D games. Of course, you'll always have hardcore fans that will hate it: Not everyone loves the Metroid Prime games. I don't like them - they don't feel right. But damn, you can't argue that they're not well made. Same with Castlevania. I hope this new Sonic game will be good. It certainly has the potential.
To me, Sonic is built around speed. The SA games definitely capitalized on that, but was "on-rails" as was stated before. If you want a free-form 3D Sonic game, you'll need to give Sonic a safety-net, an "air-bag". I don't know exactly how to do this, but you'd need to keep the sense of speed while giving the breadth of freedom a 3D game has to offer. I think it can be done; it was done to certain extent in the 2D games. Of course, you'll always have hardcore fans that will hate it: Not everyone loves the Metroid Prime games. I don't like them - they don't feel right. But damn, you can't argue that they're not well made. Same with Castlevania. I hope this new Sonic game will be good. It certainly has the potential.
It's being released on 30/03/2007, the Third of Tridecember?
I thought that the first couple of "action" levels on Sonic Adventure 1 for DC were extremely good translations of what the 2D sonic would look and feel like in 3D.
Especially that level where you're running at lightnight speed down these air-bridges and everything around you starts breaking up and thrown into a giant tornado. It was really cool.
I don't understand why they didn't just keep improving on SA1, instead of going backwards in quality. And then of course, everything xmanofstle said.
(BTW, where'd all the other smiles go?)
I thought that the first couple of "action" levels on Sonic Adventure 1 for DC were extremely good translations of what the 2D sonic would look and feel like in 3D.
Especially that level where you're running at lightnight speed down these air-bridges and everything around you starts breaking up and thrown into a giant tornado. It was really cool.
I don't understand why they didn't just keep improving on SA1, instead of going backwards in quality. And then of course, everything xmanofstle said.
(BTW, where'd all the other smiles go?)
tsumake said:
I read on wikipedia that most of the concepts for Mario64 were done while in the Snes era and was designed to be a Snes game at first Using Super FX chip technology. So by the time they came to make the game for the N64 they already were toying with the idea for a long time.
tsumake said:
Yeah I agree some games don't feel right in 3D I also don't like Metroid Prime compared to the 2d games.
I think the pinnacle of Metroid was Super Metroid on the Snes.
I Personally liked the Sonic adventure games however they were a mixed bag as the article on Racketboy's website outlines. The free roaming sections were rubbish I prefered the all out action stages.
lordofduct
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This game looks a WHOLE lot better then the XBOX360 counterpart.
But that isn't saying it is going to be great yet. I am definately waiting to see how it performs after release. If I hear good things then, I will buy it.
I was REALLY pissed with Sonic on XBOX360 and PSU on PC. I won't purchase a new Sega title for a while until something really freakin' wows me.
But that isn't saying it is going to be great yet. I am definately waiting to see how it performs after release. If I hear good things then, I will buy it.
I was REALLY pissed with Sonic on XBOX360 and PSU on PC. I won't purchase a new Sega title for a while until something really freakin' wows me.
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mal said:
I think there is a couple more places that do it as well.
I think he knew that though... that may be why he has the tomato throwing gif next to the statement.
dibz said:
I prefer this form as well... but people I know have problems with it. You should see it at work. We deal with paperwork coming in from all over the world and the DD/MM/YY and YYYY/MM/DD are the forms we come across most often and half the employees in the office can not get their heads around it. WTF?
msimplay said:
I quite liked SA1 as well. SA2, I couldn't stand. It should have been at least as tight as the first.
How's this for a thought - Releasing a PSP port of SA1/SA2, or making another Sonic game in a similar vein? Considering that the PSP has the same graphical prowess as the DC.....What do you guys think?
Pyrite said:
Holy. Crap.
That game looks exquisite. Unbelievable. The only nit I have is that Sonic's voice isn't consistent over games, but that's the only one. And the top right hand corner, for the nintendo wii as well??
This is what Sonic should've been all these years. If this doesn't bring back the franchise, I don't know what will.
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