Meristation. It's a reliable source
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Meristation. It's a reliable source
This is the exact link.
HA HA HA they have a short article about this thing in the latest game informer with a "no coment by sony" and a "we do not plan to suport this conole" by electronic arts
and finaly asking is this a hoax
and finaly asking is this a hoax
Actually, I don't think it'll run PC games. That's too risky, since newer games wouldn't run properly. Also, the console would need to use a standard windows version to properly run PC games, and games would require to be installed. That would not be too user friendly.
I'll tell you what I think this is:
It's a PC setup, much like the X-box, running modified/proprietary OS. It's OS is packed with emulators for various consoles, thus why they boast it has 30K+ games aready avaliable, and the rumored suspicious contacts with emulator authors.
It'll run emulated games from older consoles. If it would run PC games, I tell ya, the number of avaliable titles would be FAR superior than 33K, since there are so many PC games being released on a daily basis (even if 99% are small sucky games).
The system prolly works like this: you access their game library, and it gives you 3 options: play demo, rent and buy. The demo being free, the rental being cheap, but it'll delete/lock the game after a few days, and the buy option allows you to download that game freely whenever you want, and as many times you need. They prolly are getting in contact to game developers making deals for selling their old games online.
But do not expect to play Mario, Zelda or Metroid. I doubt Nintendo would allow anyone other than themselves distribute their games, no matter how much they pay.
As for the emulated consoles, since the system processor might be around 1GHz, I believe it'll offer support to most already well-emulated consoles, up to the PSX (games would be downloaded and emulated as ISOs). But I'm not sure if they are developing the emulators themselves or buying them from emu authors (that would be the DOOM for the emulation world, since many emus would then belong to Infinitum and be discontinued for the public). Tough they might do both and pay for the emu authors in order to use their already existing code in their own emulators.
Since the emulated games won't look as good as the games on other consoles, I expect the Phantom to also support true Phantom-based games. How good, graphically, those will be? Nobody will know until they post up some specs, like the video card they are using.
It *is* an interesting idea to have a system designed towards emulation, finally allowing people to play emulated games in a legal way, and the online distribution is a good idea since it allows games to be distributed by a very low fee, some even free. But the price... holy motherfucking! Also the fact it'll require broadband (at least for emulating CD-based systems, like PSX and running it's own games) limits the audience it can reach.
Seriously, it would work FAR better if, instead of being a game console you buy, it were a internet service you subscribed to, that did the exact same thing, but using your own computer (that would be much harder to protect from hacking, of course), like Cyberlink, that currently offers emulated Genesis and Saturn games for either renting or buying.
I'll tell you what I think this is:
It's a PC setup, much like the X-box, running modified/proprietary OS. It's OS is packed with emulators for various consoles, thus why they boast it has 30K+ games aready avaliable, and the rumored suspicious contacts with emulator authors.
It'll run emulated games from older consoles. If it would run PC games, I tell ya, the number of avaliable titles would be FAR superior than 33K, since there are so many PC games being released on a daily basis (even if 99% are small sucky games).
The system prolly works like this: you access their game library, and it gives you 3 options: play demo, rent and buy. The demo being free, the rental being cheap, but it'll delete/lock the game after a few days, and the buy option allows you to download that game freely whenever you want, and as many times you need. They prolly are getting in contact to game developers making deals for selling their old games online.
But do not expect to play Mario, Zelda or Metroid. I doubt Nintendo would allow anyone other than themselves distribute their games, no matter how much they pay.
As for the emulated consoles, since the system processor might be around 1GHz, I believe it'll offer support to most already well-emulated consoles, up to the PSX (games would be downloaded and emulated as ISOs). But I'm not sure if they are developing the emulators themselves or buying them from emu authors (that would be the DOOM for the emulation world, since many emus would then belong to Infinitum and be discontinued for the public). Tough they might do both and pay for the emu authors in order to use their already existing code in their own emulators.
Since the emulated games won't look as good as the games on other consoles, I expect the Phantom to also support true Phantom-based games. How good, graphically, those will be? Nobody will know until they post up some specs, like the video card they are using.
It *is* an interesting idea to have a system designed towards emulation, finally allowing people to play emulated games in a legal way, and the online distribution is a good idea since it allows games to be distributed by a very low fee, some even free. But the price... holy motherfucking! Also the fact it'll require broadband (at least for emulating CD-based systems, like PSX and running it's own games) limits the audience it can reach.
Seriously, it would work FAR better if, instead of being a game console you buy, it were a internet service you subscribed to, that did the exact same thing, but using your own computer (that would be much harder to protect from hacking, of course), like Cyberlink, that currently offers emulated Genesis and Saturn games for either renting or buying.
What a long post! Here we have a man who uses his imagination, are you a fortune teller or something like that? (If so, you may need this).
I can see your point... that makes sense, it could be used as an emulator. The problem is, since you are supposed to download the games from Infinium's network, they must provide you with the roms as there's no way to load them from a CD, and that would be illegal
Although it could be an interesting pseudo-console (a different approach to videogaming systems, if you want), it'll probably be a fake, a hoax or simply vaporware. Have you ever seen those poor Bonsai Kittens?
I can see your point... that makes sense, it could be used as an emulator. The problem is, since you are supposed to download the games from Infinium's network, they must provide you with the roms as there's no way to load them from a CD, and that would be illegal
Although it could be an interesting pseudo-console (a different approach to videogaming systems, if you want), it'll probably be a fake, a hoax or simply vaporware. Have you ever seen those poor Bonsai Kittens?
Maybe you skimmed through my post and missed the part where I say they might provide the roms in a legal way.
Just because the motherfucking ROMs are in a CD doesn't make them automatically legal. And just by the fact they are being transferred through the NET doesn't make them automatically illegal. What are you smoking?
Cyberlink offers both Geneis and Saturn games for download. It *IS* legal *AND* licensed by Sega.
The Infinitum people only need to sign distribution agreements with the developers, and pay them if someone downloads their game, obivously. Like any distributor does. But Infinitun would not have any costs with cart/CD manufacturing, package printing and shipping. Just bandwidth.
IF the Phantom ever comes out, of course. It might as well crash and burn as quickly as the Philips CDI.
Just because the motherfucking ROMs are in a CD doesn't make them automatically legal. And just by the fact they are being transferred through the NET doesn't make them automatically illegal. What are you smoking?
Cyberlink offers both Geneis and Saturn games for download. It *IS* legal *AND* licensed by Sega.
The Infinitum people only need to sign distribution agreements with the developers, and pay them if someone downloads their game, obivously. Like any distributor does. But Infinitun would not have any costs with cart/CD manufacturing, package printing and shipping. Just bandwidth.
IF the Phantom ever comes out, of course. It might as well crash and burn as quickly as the Philips CDI.
Sorry, I didn't make myself quite clear
Also, the games will have to be very good to compensate for the high price, time will tell -although I have my doubts-, that is, if it's not a hoax... the name says it all: Phantom
Maybe I'm just an idiot, but is it just me or does this adress seem a little odd?
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This retailing scheme takes the value off the games IMO. It's like an eternal rental system, but even physical game rental is better than this.
And with loads of PC games spawning several CDs, it will suck a lot to have to wait hours for the game to download before you can play it, if your broadband isn't broad enough.
And I bet the subscription will only grant you access to really old games, and indie/super small games, like those that come with cheesy CD-ROM mags.
It's a good idea for promoting micro and indie game developers, but this whole system could be recreated easily (and FAR cheaper) by a software you install in your PC to manage game licenses or something, managed by a central website that promotes the developers.
And with loads of PC games spawning several CDs, it will suck a lot to have to wait hours for the game to download before you can play it, if your broadband isn't broad enough.
And I bet the subscription will only grant you access to really old games, and indie/super small games, like those that come with cheesy CD-ROM mags.
It's a good idea for promoting micro and indie game developers, but this whole system could be recreated easily (and FAR cheaper) by a software you install in your PC to manage game licenses or something, managed by a central website that promotes the developers.
They have a cool website, but that's about it. This thing is going to tank, and fast. Who the hell is going to buy a closed box PC? And who's going to let these guys allow people to d/l their games? And even if they do, how in shit are they going to recover their costs let alone turn a profit? I sure hope for their sake this is some elaborate scam. If it's a real genuine idea they're going to be sorely dissapointed.
but I could be wrong..
but I could be wrong..
You know what's wrong with this? It's just too damn complicated. Look at all the "partnerships" they're depending on. Hardware, software, providers, etc. This is absurd. Partnering two companies is messy enough, try getting 50+ of them to all agree to how this is going to work. Oh yeah, everything will turn out juuuust fine
